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		By: Erik		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-801</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That explains it! 
Thanks a lot :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That explains it!<br />
Thanks a lot 🙂</p>
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		By: Mickael Blanchard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickael Blanchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2020 06:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-799&quot;&gt;Erik&lt;/a&gt;.

Right!]]></description>
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<p>Right!</p>
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		By: Erik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2020 06:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi 
do i understand this correctly:
it is the cars memory that you &quot;program&quot; with canZE. not the actual sensors inside the wheels. right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
do i understand this correctly:<br />
it is the cars memory that you &#8220;program&#8221; with canZE. not the actual sensors inside the wheels. right?</p>
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		By: Mickael Blanchard		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-798</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickael Blanchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2020 19:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-796&quot;&gt;Jeroen Meijer&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi,

Small feedback I has a lot of un-understanding ... if it can be useful to others here! Tested and approved while switching summer / winter / summer tires over several days to validate that everything was OK (and would be OK at the end of winter: D)

I hadn&#039;t understood everything by reading all the exchanges so far.
Already a priori, a TPMS sensor originally mounted on a Renault rim, it is not possible to change its serial number ID. Only a generic sensor will be able to be a record with a suitable device (around 200 €) and by inserting the sensor into the device (it only works if you have the sensor in your hand and it is not mounted on the rim!). Easiest solution ... buy the said generic sensor already programmed with the number you need (I found some custom sensors on a German website)

So for those like me who would like to have 2 summer / winter games without going through Renault each time:
- either you do not have winter wheels, in this case you have to buy 4 sensors with the same IDs as your summer game (the IDs declared in the on-board computer can be read from the CanZE application and a BT dongle OBD II). You order your 4 sensors on the german website, you have them mounted on your rims and the Zoe will not differentiate between your summer tires and winter tires.
- or you had, like me, winter wheels for which you do not know the identifiers, the former owner came to Renault twice a year to remove the sensor error message. Unfortunately, you have to go either to Renault so that they can record the &quot;winter&quot; IDs in the on-board computer (of course, remember to writhe the IDs read somewhere in CanZE before going to Renault), or you find a knowledge who has the device at 200 € cited above (the same one that allows to program an ID in the sensor), because it also allows to read the ID of a sensor already mounted on a rim. And so when changing tires, you just have to go twice a year to CanZE to modify the IDs of your wheels.

A TPMS sensor has a lifespan (battery) of approximately 5-7 years. It is clear that they will break down, I will have them redone with the IDs of my winter wheels, so that I would only have 4 identical summer / winter IDs.

Personally, I wrote the sensor numbers directly inside the rims in paint, it allows me to keep track of them, even if I end up losing the paper where I wrote down the IDs of my 2 sets ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-796">Jeroen Meijer</a>.</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Small feedback I has a lot of un-understanding &#8230; if it can be useful to others here! Tested and approved while switching summer / winter / summer tires over several days to validate that everything was OK (and would be OK at the end of winter: D)</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t understood everything by reading all the exchanges so far.<br />
Already a priori, a TPMS sensor originally mounted on a Renault rim, it is not possible to change its serial number ID. Only a generic sensor will be able to be a record with a suitable device (around 200 €) and by inserting the sensor into the device (it only works if you have the sensor in your hand and it is not mounted on the rim!). Easiest solution &#8230; buy the said generic sensor already programmed with the number you need (I found some custom sensors on a German website)</p>
<p>So for those like me who would like to have 2 summer / winter games without going through Renault each time:<br />
&#8211; either you do not have winter wheels, in this case you have to buy 4 sensors with the same IDs as your summer game (the IDs declared in the on-board computer can be read from the CanZE application and a BT dongle OBD II). You order your 4 sensors on the german website, you have them mounted on your rims and the Zoe will not differentiate between your summer tires and winter tires.<br />
&#8211; or you had, like me, winter wheels for which you do not know the identifiers, the former owner came to Renault twice a year to remove the sensor error message. Unfortunately, you have to go either to Renault so that they can record the &#8220;winter&#8221; IDs in the on-board computer (of course, remember to writhe the IDs read somewhere in CanZE before going to Renault), or you find a knowledge who has the device at 200 € cited above (the same one that allows to program an ID in the sensor), because it also allows to read the ID of a sensor already mounted on a rim. And so when changing tires, you just have to go twice a year to CanZE to modify the IDs of your wheels.</p>
<p>A TPMS sensor has a lifespan (battery) of approximately 5-7 years. It is clear that they will break down, I will have them redone with the IDs of my winter wheels, so that I would only have 4 identical summer / winter IDs.</p>
<p>Personally, I wrote the sensor numbers directly inside the rims in paint, it allows me to keep track of them, even if I end up losing the paper where I wrote down the IDs of my 2 sets 😉</p>
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		By: Mickael Blanchard		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-797</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickael Blanchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2020 21:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-796&quot;&gt;Jeroen Meijer&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you. I will receive the programmable sensors next Monday. I will keep you inform :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-796">Jeroen Meijer</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you. I will receive the programmable sensors next Monday. I will keep you inform 🙂</p>
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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-796</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeroen Meijer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2020 08:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-795&quot;&gt;Mickael Blanchard&lt;/a&gt;.

That is exactly correct!

Alternatively, as @brausesite writes, you can maybe buy programmable valves, in which you copy your original IDs. The car then never even realizes the tires were swapped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-795">Mickael Blanchard</a>.</p>
<p>That is exactly correct!</p>
<p>Alternatively, as @brausesite writes, you can maybe buy programmable valves, in which you copy your original IDs. The car then never even realizes the tires were swapped.</p>
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		By: Mickael Blanchard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickael Blanchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-794&quot;&gt;brausesite&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Jeroen, sorry i was in holidays;)
If I understand you correctly, today I have in CanZE and in my onboard computer the 4 ids of my summer wheels. I can write it in the A memory.
If I visit my car garage, with my winter wheels, i will have after my winter ID in CanZe and in my onboard computer. I will can record these IDs in the B memory in CanZE.
Next Summer, i will mount again my summer wheels, and just start CanZE to read the memory A to load these IDs into my onboard computer. Right?
Excuse me, i have some difficulties to understand how it works between the data read by CanZE and the real ID of my wheels and the id stored in my onboard computer :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-794">brausesite</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Jeroen, sorry i was in holidays;)<br />
If I understand you correctly, today I have in CanZE and in my onboard computer the 4 ids of my summer wheels. I can write it in the A memory.<br />
If I visit my car garage, with my winter wheels, i will have after my winter ID in CanZe and in my onboard computer. I will can record these IDs in the B memory in CanZE.<br />
Next Summer, i will mount again my summer wheels, and just start CanZE to read the memory A to load these IDs into my onboard computer. Right?<br />
Excuse me, i have some difficulties to understand how it works between the data read by CanZE and the real ID of my wheels and the id stored in my onboard computer 😀</p>
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		By: brausesite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brausesite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 12:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And, if you had taken programmable sensors (like I did), they can take the same IDs of the primary wheels done by the wheel service. Thus, from that point you will  never have to change the IDs  within the board software again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, if you had taken programmable sensors (like I did), they can take the same IDs of the primary wheels done by the wheel service. Thus, from that point you will  never have to change the IDs  within the board software again.</p>
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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeroen Meijer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2020 20:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-792&quot;&gt;Mickael Blanchard&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t understand what you mean with &quot;I will can also write the Summer ID on my Winter ID, right?&quot;. I think you pulled S1-4 from your car already, save a print-screen and save in set A. Now get the winter tires fitted by the dealer, do the same and save in set B. Presto. You now have the ID&#039;s in screen-print and memory. As long as the memory is unharmed: load the proper set (A or B), and write to the car, done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2019/01/20/tpms-ids-can-now-be-read-and-written/#comment-792">Mickael Blanchard</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand what you mean with &#8220;I will can also write the Summer ID on my Winter ID, right?&#8221;. I think you pulled S1-4 from your car already, save a print-screen and save in set A. Now get the winter tires fitted by the dealer, do the same and save in set B. Presto. You now have the ID&#8217;s in screen-print and memory. As long as the memory is unharmed: load the proper set (A or B), and write to the car, done.</p>
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		By: Mickael Blanchard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickael Blanchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2020 13:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Jeroen. To be sure to understand you. At this time, my Zoe know the 4 ids of my Summer Wheels (eg S1/S2/S3/S4).
I have also 4 unkown ids on my Winter Wheels (eg W1/W2/W3/W4).
If i will see my Renault garage, they will write into the onboard computer the W1/W2/W3/W4. It will allow me to read this &quot;winter IDs&quot; with CanZE.
I will can also write the Summer ID on my Winter ID, right? (W1=S1, W2=S2,...) But at the end of winter time, i will need to visit one more time Renault to record into the onboard computer, because they recognize only the Winter IDs (and I will be on the same situation than today, even if I put my summer wheels, i can&#039;t change the IDs with CanZE if the wheels are not recognise by the car?) I need absolutly record into the Winter sensors the ids of summer sensors. Right?

It will only for the 2022 Winter that i will have the 4 sames IDs for Winter &#038; Summer wheels, and my onboard computeur will know the 4 summer ID (and i will use the same for my winter wheels)?

Do you know another way to know the TPMS IDs on a wheel (without read the id directly on the sensors?). It will save 2 visits to my garage....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jeroen. To be sure to understand you. At this time, my Zoe know the 4 ids of my Summer Wheels (eg S1/S2/S3/S4).<br />
I have also 4 unkown ids on my Winter Wheels (eg W1/W2/W3/W4).<br />
If i will see my Renault garage, they will write into the onboard computer the W1/W2/W3/W4. It will allow me to read this &#8220;winter IDs&#8221; with CanZE.<br />
I will can also write the Summer ID on my Winter ID, right? (W1=S1, W2=S2,&#8230;) But at the end of winter time, i will need to visit one more time Renault to record into the onboard computer, because they recognize only the Winter IDs (and I will be on the same situation than today, even if I put my summer wheels, i can&#8217;t change the IDs with CanZE if the wheels are not recognise by the car?) I need absolutly record into the Winter sensors the ids of summer sensors. Right?</p>
<p>It will only for the 2022 Winter that i will have the 4 sames IDs for Winter &amp; Summer wheels, and my onboard computeur will know the 4 summer ID (and i will use the same for my winter wheels)?</p>
<p>Do you know another way to know the TPMS IDs on a wheel (without read the id directly on the sensors?). It will save 2 visits to my garage&#8230;.</p>
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