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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2016/08/13/the-zoes-12-volt-battery/#comment-441</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeroen Meijer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2016/08/13/the-zoes-12-volt-battery/#comment-440&quot;&gt;Borut&lt;/a&gt;.

5%? That is one kWh and would require a 80 Ah battery.

I.e. power steering runs on the 12 volt bus, so you either need to make sure that either:
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;critical systems like these run off the inverter (negating your 5%),&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;be damned sure your 12 volt battery is capable of supporting you on even the longest drive (including fans, lights),&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;start charging anyway when the voltage drops below a certain threshold.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

I don&#039;t know which cable comes from the inverter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2016/08/13/the-zoes-12-volt-battery/#comment-440">Borut</a>.</p>
<p>5%? That is one kWh and would require a 80 Ah battery.</p>
<p>I.e. power steering runs on the 12 volt bus, so you either need to make sure that either:</p>
<ul>
<li>critical systems like these run off the inverter (negating your 5%),</li>
<li>be damned sure your 12 volt battery is capable of supporting you on even the longest drive (including fans, lights),</li>
<li>start charging anyway when the voltage drops below a certain threshold.</li>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know which cable comes from the inverter.</p>
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		By: Borut		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 18:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was thinking to install li-ion 12 V battery and disconnect the onboard charger for 12 V battery  but I didn&#039;t find witch fuse or wire to disconect.
I would connect it only when charging main battery,and thus extend range by  5 % by my calculations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking to install li-ion 12 V battery and disconnect the onboard charger for 12 V battery  but I didn&#8217;t find witch fuse or wire to disconect.<br />
I would connect it only when charging main battery,and thus extend range by  5 % by my calculations.</p>
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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2016/08/13/the-zoes-12-volt-battery/#comment-439</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 16:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2016/08/13/the-zoes-12-volt-battery/#comment-437&quot;&gt;Borut&lt;/a&gt;.

Good info :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2016/08/13/the-zoes-12-volt-battery/#comment-437">Borut</a>.</p>
<p>Good info 🙂</p>
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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeroen Meijer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2016/08/13/the-zoes-12-volt-battery/#comment-436&quot;&gt;feschy&lt;/a&gt;.

The standard maintenance scheme is to replace the battery every 3 years. I think I will have it tested and then decide. After all it is my car and my battery. If it is iffy I will not hesitate to replace it immediately with dropping temperatures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2016/08/13/the-zoes-12-volt-battery/#comment-436">feschy</a>.</p>
<p>The standard maintenance scheme is to replace the battery every 3 years. I think I will have it tested and then decide. After all it is my car and my battery. If it is iffy I will not hesitate to replace it immediately with dropping temperatures.</p>
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		By: Borut		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 16:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I experimented with the 12 V battery and found that if I charge the 12 V battery with external 14 V charger the stand by load on the 400 V battery went to 0 (from 300 W reported by the can ze).
I try to disconnect the battery and everithing works fine without the 12 V battery.I can drive around wirhout  12 V Battery.
And yes you can jumpstart a zoe  even without the 12 V battery installed.
everithing works until the main 400 V contactor switches off.(didn&#039;t try ABS)
I have R240,dont know about q210.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experimented with the 12 V battery and found that if I charge the 12 V battery with external 14 V charger the stand by load on the 400 V battery went to 0 (from 300 W reported by the can ze).<br />
I try to disconnect the battery and everithing works fine without the 12 V battery.I can drive around wirhout  12 V Battery.<br />
And yes you can jumpstart a zoe  even without the 12 V battery installed.<br />
everithing works until the main 400 V contactor switches off.(didn&#8217;t try ABS)<br />
I have R240,dont know about q210.</p>
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		By: feschy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2016 07:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does this explain why the ZOE&#039;s battery is being replaced every 3 years? This is a least what my dealer told me! Mine has thus been replaced on Friday, but of course in insisted on getting the old one ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this explain why the ZOE&#8217;s battery is being replaced every 3 years? This is a least what my dealer told me! Mine has thus been replaced on Friday, but of course in insisted on getting the old one 😉</p>
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