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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-237</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeroen Meijer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2018 22:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-236&quot;&gt;Oleksiy Protas&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for the offer! I think we have enough underside pictures, see http://canze.fisch.lu/more-battery-change-pictures/ and http://canze.fisch.lu/battery-retrofit-part-two/ and http://canze.fisch.lu/battery-retrofit-part-one/ . My most important question with regard to the &quot;home made traction battery&quot; would be the reverse engineering info with respect to the CANbus traffic. What is the startup sequence and what messages are exchanged to make the car happy enough to work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-236">Oleksiy Protas</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for the offer! I think we have enough underside pictures, see <a href="http://canze.fisch.lu/more-battery-change-pictures/" rel="ugc">http://canze.fisch.lu/more-battery-change-pictures/</a> and <a href="http://canze.fisch.lu/battery-retrofit-part-two/" rel="ugc">http://canze.fisch.lu/battery-retrofit-part-two/</a> and <a href="http://canze.fisch.lu/battery-retrofit-part-one/" rel="ugc">http://canze.fisch.lu/battery-retrofit-part-one/</a> . My most important question with regard to the &#8220;home made traction battery&#8221; would be the reverse engineering info with respect to the CANbus traffic. What is the startup sequence and what messages are exchanged to make the car happy enough to work.</p>
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		By: Oleksiy Protas		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oleksiy Protas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-235&quot;&gt;Jeroen Meijer&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi. Small update. I&#039;m installing the Leaf one with own lithium at the moment since there are no 8-packs of Tesla modules around right now and will be upgrading when I could get my hands on them.

I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;ll be in the process of remastering the Leaf battery per se to take pics and it&#039;s not as dramatic as fitting 18650&#039;s with liquid cooling, though I can connect you with people who are doing it if interested and will ask them questions on my own tomorrow too.

That being said, my Zoe is parked without battery at the moment so if you want any pictures of the underside, connectors etc which would normally be obscured I can do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-235">Jeroen Meijer</a>.</p>
<p>Hi. Small update. I&#8217;m installing the Leaf one with own lithium at the moment since there are no 8-packs of Tesla modules around right now and will be upgrading when I could get my hands on them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;ll be in the process of remastering the Leaf battery per se to take pics and it&#8217;s not as dramatic as fitting 18650&#8217;s with liquid cooling, though I can connect you with people who are doing it if interested and will ask them questions on my own tomorrow too.</p>
<p>That being said, my Zoe is parked without battery at the moment so if you want any pictures of the underside, connectors etc which would normally be obscured I can do it.</p>
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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-235</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeroen Meijer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Got it, thank you. I am very interested if the CANbus messages from/to the BMS are the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got it, thank you. I am very interested if the CANbus messages from/to the BMS are the same.</p>
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		By: Oleksiy Protas		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-234</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oleksiy Protas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-229&quot;&gt;Jeroen Meijer&lt;/a&gt;.

Can&#039;t reply to the last message. Yeah the forum is in Russian/Ukrainian.

BMS is different, but they use a BMS from leaf modified to talk to Zoe. I&#039;m in no way directly related to the project, just hanging around in that forum. When I get my Zoe upgraded with the help of same people I&#039;ll tell more info if they consider it public enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-229">Jeroen Meijer</a>.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t reply to the last message. Yeah the forum is in Russian/Ukrainian.</p>
<p>BMS is different, but they use a BMS from leaf modified to talk to Zoe. I&#8217;m in no way directly related to the project, just hanging around in that forum. When I get my Zoe upgraded with the help of same people I&#8217;ll tell more info if they consider it public enough.</p>
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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeroen Meijer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 19:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-229&quot;&gt;Jeroen Meijer&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely cool. I had to use Google translate and well, I am not sure I get it 100%. Is doc1972 saying the BMS in the ZOE is 100% the same as Leaf?]]></description>
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<p>Absolutely cool. I had to use Google translate and well, I am not sure I get it 100%. Is doc1972 saying the BMS in the ZOE is 100% the same as Leaf?</p>
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		By: Oleksiy Protas		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-232</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oleksiy Protas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 15:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-229&quot;&gt;Jeroen Meijer&lt;/a&gt;.

By the way:
http://electroavtosam.com.ua/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&#038;t=2323]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-229">Jeroen Meijer</a>.</p>
<p>By the way:<br />
<a href="http://electroavtosam.com.ua/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&#038;t=2323" rel="nofollow ugc">http://electroavtosam.com.ua/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&#038;t=2323</a></p>
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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-231</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeroen Meijer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-229&quot;&gt;Jeroen Meijer&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks!]]></description>
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<p>Thanks!</p>
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		By: Oleksiy Protas		</title>
		<link>https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-230</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oleksiy Protas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2018 21:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-229&quot;&gt;Jeroen Meijer&lt;/a&gt;.

Pictures will come in April, still waiting for the truck to collect the car because Ukraine has like 50 cm snowfall :(]]></description>
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<p>Pictures will come in April, still waiting for the truck to collect the car because Ukraine has like 50 cm snowfall 🙁</p>
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		By: Jeroen Meijer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeroen Meijer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2018 14:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-228&quot;&gt;Oleksiy Protas&lt;/a&gt;.

Pictures, pictures please!! :-)

I asked around, no clear answer. My guess is at least the fan logic would work (no reason why not). If it also uses the active mode (A/C cooling) is less obvious. IMHO.]]></description>
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<p>Pictures, pictures please!! 🙂</p>
<p>I asked around, no clear answer. My guess is at least the fan logic would work (no reason why not). If it also uses the active mode (A/C cooling) is less obvious. IMHO.</p>
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		By: Oleksiy Protas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oleksiy Protas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2018 14:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://canze.fisch.lu/2015/12/23/cooling-the-zoe-battery/#comment-227&quot;&gt;Jeroen Meijer&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks you. I&#039;m about to retrofit Tesla modules on a Zoe and given it has liquid cooling I was curious whether I could re-use the blower logic replacing it with a pump. If it doesn&#039;t respond to temperature, then it&#039;d be harder.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks you. I&#8217;m about to retrofit Tesla modules on a Zoe and given it has liquid cooling I was curious whether I could re-use the blower logic replacing it with a pump. If it doesn&#8217;t respond to temperature, then it&#8217;d be harder.</p>
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